Kingdom of Pets Login See if your question has already been asked. Community / Dog Lovers Corner /Are We Really Alpha Dogs?Are We Really Alpha Dogs? Posted by kjd Jun 25, 2011I've been reading John Bradshaw's book "Dog Sense" and he has a lot of good points. First, he feels the "alpha dog" concept is based on poor science: the wolf packs studied were captive wolves with little or no familial relations to one another. Real wolf packs are families and the rough stuff seen in those captive packs doesn't occur. After all, "alpha dog and bitch" are really mom and dad. The rest of the pack are their children from this year's litter and last year's and maybe the year's before. Next (and I am giving you my take on this), if you were to take a wolf pup and a dog pup and raise them together in your house, you would always know which was the wolf. You could socialize the dog to like other humans, the wolf would only tolerate them. Also, the dog would naturally take to other dogs, whereas the wolf would only accept his pack. [What Bradshaw says is that when the dog and wolf parted company thousands of years ago, it was the wolves that could tolerate mankind that became dogs. Those that couldn't remained wolves. Following this, I guess he would say that if we killed off all the dogs, that would be the end of it -- we couldn't domesticate the current wolves.] Bradshaw admits he doesn't have all the answers, but he feels, if we want to understand dogs, we should study dogs, not wolves. And we should study dogs in their natural habitat -- in human families. Reading his book may put you in awe of that animal at your feet! Meanwhile, he sees the relation between dogs and humans in a family as between dogs and their providers/nurturers/mothers, not dog and alpha dog. He feels training should always be positive, not punitive. I suspect that the "alpha dog" training proposed by the Kingdom of Pets works mostly because it causes the human to be consistent in their dealing with their dogs. Dogs are happiest when they know what to expect. Humans are happiest when they know what to do. Posted by MaxHollyNoah Jun 26, 2011Hi kjd, I am in a total agreement with you and Bradshaw (although I haven't read his book). Dogs are not wolves and we are not dogs. Dogs and humans are two different species and dogs are aware of that. We don't need to imitate wolves or dogs. Dogs have been domesticated long enough and now they look at us humans as caregivers, feeders, protectors, and ideally leaders. If we humans can learn how to communicate with dogs (not in "dog to dog" way but "dog to people" way) by consistant and positive trainings, they will choose to live in a harmony with us. We don't need to "eat before dogs do", "go through the door before dogs do", "keep dogs off the couches or the beds", etc. to show them that we are the "Alfa Dog". Dogs that have learned rules and boundaries of the family they live with would not challenge you to raise their positions over humans as some books warn you. They like to be with you, to please you, to be loved by you, and it is more like a child wanting to be with his mom. Dogs also know that they are not the same as cats. My dogs never treat cats as dogs. My husband and I live with 3 dogs and 3 cats and a foster dog and we all respect and care for each other because we are 3 different species, there is no need for a "Alpha Dog" in our family.