10 month labrador Dog chewing/peeling off the paint of my house!

Posted by 755crsimmons
Mar 24, 2009
Can anyone tell me if this is common?... or why would my lab simply chose to [B]peel off [/B]the outdoor paint of my house. I'm a hard time dealing with this since she's leaving several spots paintless.
Please I need some advice on how to deal with this... my [B][U]patience is running out!:mad:[/U][/B]

A simple NO is not helping.... should I spray those spots with vinegar?:confused:

[B][SIZE="3"]Please HELP ME!!![/SIZE][/B]
Posted by LetsPlay
Mar 24, 2009
Hi there,
in order to fix the problem you will need to find out why your dog is doing it.
Does he scratch the house with his paws? Does he start doing it as soon as he is outside? Does he do it all the time when he is outside? Does he do it when you are not home? Does he doe it when you are home but he can't get to you?
Does he do it in different spots? Does he stop when you call him to you?

Please let us know as much as you can and we will try to help you with this.

John
Posted by 755crsimmons
Mar 24, 2009
Before this she chewed part of the edges of her doghouse (plastic bought in CostCo) and a drain valve from my water heater.
Answering you questions...

[B]Does he scratch the house with his paws? [/B]
NO, it's with the front teeth, like nibbling... the dog is female

[B]Does he start doing it as soon as he is outside? [/B]
We really don't know, mainly we give her a rawhide bone to go outside and chew... so how much time passes between letting her outside and the start of her crime is unknown.

[B]Does he do it all the time when he is outside? [/B]
it's beginning to seem this way, every time she's outside and we come back we find paint peeled off or the sheet cloth inside her doghouse outside.

[B]Does he do it when you are not home? [/B]
Yes and No, she does it when we least expect her to do it. [B]Yes[/B], we have found the results of this thing she does and [B]No[/B] because my wife has caught her infranganti

[B]Does he do it when you are home but he can't get to you?[/B]
She usually whines a bit to seek out attention or sleeps on our feet, she often seeks my wife's attention, she's more tender and warm. When she approaches me she wiggles her tail upto the point in which the hip also moves along... but she approaches with her head facing down, ears pulled back.

[B]Does he do it in different spots?[/B]
Yes, she has done it in 4 spots now, too bad I can't fine her for vandalism.

[B]Does he stop when you call him to you?[/B]
Yes, and looks back licking her mouth from one side and then the other.
Posted by LetsPlay
Mar 25, 2009
Hi there,

three things spring to my mind
1. Gum problems/ teething that lead to excessive chewing
2. A compulsive disorder perhaps due to separation anxiety
or
3. a diet problem

The first thing I would do is get her checked out by a vet to make sure that no medical reason is the cause of all this.
Even though she is ten months old she might have some late teething problems or sore gum's from teeth growing in funny directions. Dogs that have sore gums often prefer to chew timber, rather than bones.
Dogs that eat weird things often lack something in their diet and try to get the missing nutrients by eating or chewing whatever comes their way.
Make sure you feed her a high quality dog food.

You might like to try putting Vaseline mixed with cayenne pepper or vinegar on the spots where she chewed. That way the house will "bite back" when she tries to chew. I would definitely recommend getting her checked out though, as the vinegar is only a short term solution.

Let us know how you get on. If it is a disorder it's possible to cure with long term training.

John
Posted by 755crsimmons
Mar 25, 2009
regarding the diet item you mention, we feed her [B]Puppy Dog Food from Kirkland[/B], bought in CostCo also. For what I've read on the internet is a good brand for the price you get it. I really don't know what to look for on dog food that might suit my pet's diet.

Some people have recommend [B]ProPlan or Science Diet [/B]which I find extremely expensive at the moment with all this economical crisis going on. A sack will cost me around 65usd and is out of our budget while the Kirkland food costs around 14usd. Big difference.....

Separation anxiety has to be evaluated.... she constantly follows my wife everywhere.... Kena (that's the dog's name) usually whines/cries at her... not to me. Like I said.... when Kena sees me come home... she'll come wiggling her tail to the point of the hip going crazy but lowers her head and pulls back the ears.

About the mix you suggested... where can I find cayenne pepper... I live in Mexico and would like to know a name to look for it on my local supermarket.

thank you so much for the time spent on this....
Posted by LetsPlay
Mar 25, 2009
Hi again,
yes true, that is a lot of money. You might want to check the ingredient list for slat or dye. If it has dye in it I strongly recommend changing to a different brand, if it has a lot of salt in it I would do the same. There are some cheaper brands around that are rice based and very good. Perhaps ring a few vets and ask them about it or do some research online.

The way your dog greets you is very acceptable. She is excited, but shows submission at the same time by pulling her ears back. From what you said it looks as though she accepts you as her leader.

How does your wife react when the dog whines? Does she get attention (negative or positive) when she cries? Does your wife sometime close doors between her and the dog even when she is at home? Does the dog jump up to follow your wife even if she was asleep just before?


Cayenne pepper is just a very strong red pepper. You could also use ground black pepper or vinegar. Anything that is not poisonous, but tastes very strong and hot.
Some pet shops also offer "Don't touch" sprays. Some of them are fabric safe ( as you don't want to be smearing fat and pepper over your new lounge suite). They are of course more expensive than the home made pepper solution.

Let us know how you get on.
John
Posted by 755crsimmons
Apr 1, 2009
[B]There are some cheaper brands around that are rice based and very good. Perhaps ring a few vets and ask them about it or do some research online.[/B]
OK, we did this and it sure dissapointed me Vets trying to market their sponsor whether it was ProPlan, Eukanuba, Purina bla bla bla..... With no real arguments on why should I switch brands. I'm still stuck here....

[B]From what you said it looks as though she accepts you as her leader.[/B]
On this matter we're still working on her full attention, since I'm a loud speaker when my wife is also in the same room with us (dog and me) she decides to run to my wife instead of obeying my commands. We're reinforcing attention to me when my wife is around. This is being taken care of.

[B]How does your wife react when the dog whines? Does she get attention (negative or positive) when she cries? [/B]
It depends, if my wife is busy she ignores it, but if she's not busy... she'll start praising her with sweet remarks.

[B]Does your wife sometime close doors between her and the dog even when she is at home? Does the dog jump up to follow your wife even if she was asleep just before? [/B]
Yes, she does that a lot, the jumping... she jumps at her and not to me.

[B]Cayenne pepper is just a very strong red pepper. You could also use ground black pepper or vinegar. Anything that is not poisonous, but tastes very strong and hot.
Some pet shops also offer "Don't touch" sprays.[/B]
Since i still don't get this solution on how to mix and smear hehehe... we decided to walk out our pet a bit more and stimulate training following Victoria's Stilwell tips and tricks on her show. Basically to tire her physically and mentally.
BUUUT!!! here's the NEW thing Kena has found somehow amusing and that my wife has caught her twice. She's eating her POOP!!! :eek: Why!! is this a phase every puppy (10month old labrador) goes through... or are we missing something?:rolleyes:

you know comments are always welcome
Posted by LetsPlay
Apr 1, 2009
Hi there,
the fact that your dog eats her poo clearly shows that she is missing something in her diet. It's called coprophagia and is quite common.
Dogs that lack certain nutrients in their diet will eat their poo. Eating rabbit poo is quite normal during all stages of your dogs life. Dogs are not meant to only eat meat. Often dogs are only fed meat and therefore they will eat rabbit poo. Dogs have trouble digesting certain things and by eating rabbit poo they get the good nutrients that have already been "processed".

Some people made good experiences with adding pineapple chunks to the dogs meals to help with digestion. Again I would recommend to change to a premium dog food (I know that vets like promoting the big brands and their food is certainly good, but because they do extensive advertising and give away free stuff the price is quite high). Perhaps do a search on the internet. I know there are some smaller brands out there that are very good, but much cheaper.

Good luck!
John
Posted by 755crsimmons
Apr 5, 2009
On the food subject, we have come to see that our pet no longer eats the dog food... she will smell it and then look around and see if there is something a lot better around. After awhile, she'll start eating on a slow pace.

The paint tearing is still a major item... we will go to the grocery store buy the [B]Cayenne pepper[/B]. It is still unclear for me how to USE it.... should I just sprinkle it on the spots?... should I mix it with something else to smear it on the walls?.....
Could you please point out the correct way to employ this household solution. I've read the posts on this thread and it is still very unclear :confused:
Sorry!

About the whining, out pet whines a lot now when my wife is not around or doesn't pay attention to her for a short period of time.
I read in a letter from your staff to do a certain repetition of steps to break the routine of leaving the pet behind. We can do that,... still my wife is very "mellow" or "lovable" and would praise the dog a lot for not even doing nothing in return.
Posted by JayStation3
Apr 29, 2009
Well The Pepper solution is the best way to go - I used this on my dog and it worked in days, He was tearing up the carpet in the living room and I just sprinkled some CP on the spots and the first time he went to chew the carpet - i watched with such laughter cause apparnetly it got in his nose and mouth, he went back to do it a few hours later and then again the next day and by day three I couldnt even call him over to the spot.

If its on a vertical spot, spray some vinigar on the wall and before it dried sprinkle the Pepper on the wall...do it all over the wall where your dog can reach, cause she will try and search out a spot that isnt uncompfortable for her to chew and if she finds it - she will just start chewing there...

Also - Purina dog food is a good brand and it's relativly inexpensive ... I get a 20-30 pound bag for $16.00 at walmart here in Houston...and it lasts my 8 month old pit bull 2 weeks... I mix 1 & 1/2 cups of the dry dog food with warm water and 1 egg for breakfast and two full cups dry for dinner. Try that.

Hope this helps
Posted by LetsPlay
Apr 29, 2009
Hi there, sounds like you will have to train your dog and your wife
It's very important that she follows the steps on how to become the Alpha Dog as well. Some people find it hard having to be consistent with their dogs, but it's important for your wife to know that your dog will be much happier if she has a stable pack order and she is at the bottom of the pack. That way she knows she is taken care of and she doesn't have to whine.
Your dog will need to do something in return for being praised. Even if it is just a "sit" or a "down".
Perhaps get your wife to read through the "Alpha Dog book".

Have you tried the pepper? Any updates?
John