fear aggression? please HELP

Posted by Mich
Feb 14, 2009
Hi, I have a 3 1/2 yr old male jack russell cross. We rescued Jake from a dog shelter when he was 7 months old and recovering from a broken front leg (kicked by a horse). example of 2 problems - I go into the bathroom and Jake is outside the door crying, or pick up keys, put shoes on etc sometimes he will cry, pace up and down, or shake badly. He pulls on the lead and does not always come when we call him. Jake is a very friendly dog and likes to play with all dogs. The other day he was off the lead and a man approached the field with two terriers (both on leads). Jake went over to see them like he would all dogs but, one snarled at him and a fight started, this had never happened before and I could not get jakes attention and I had to pull them apart myself. Since this incident jake has started barking at other dogs when walking on a lead (never did before). Unfortunately, he has got into two other fights since!! I understand I need to spend time working with jake but I am now frightened to let him off the lead what can I do? jake loves to run really fast.

I have downloaded the SitStayFetch training manual and I cant stop reading it, its really helpful! I have paid a professional trainer before, she came to my house assessed Jake and sent me a Report of him but no follow up unless paid again. SitStayFetch is GREAT because it's help when you need it, I can pick it up at any time of the day or night. We have a lot to learn and one of us needs to become the Alpha dog or can it be both of us? our dog is very smart and given half a chance he will be confident and to his credit he has come a very long way already, our lack of knowledge has held him back, however we are willing to learn Michelle, England
Posted by LetsPlay
Feb 15, 2009
Hi Michelle,

sounds like your dog is a bit of a handful at the moment.
I'm confident that with the right training and some time investment he will turn out to be an awesome dog.
Perhaps he has taken advantage of your lack of knowledge or leadership as you mentioned.

One thing is very important: Everyone in your household has to have a higher rank than he does, you and your partner need to be the Alpha Dogs, if you have any children he needs to accept commands from them just as readily as from you. He is at the bottom of the pack, no matter what.
It's the best place for him to be, because it means that he is well taken care of. He won't have to worry about hunting his own food, you will provide it for him (keeping the best piece for yourself of course), he won't have to worry about strangers or other dogs entering your territory, as you will take care of it. He can just be relaxed.
He won't have to worry about protecting you from strange dogs on your walks, as you are the one taking care of him.
Honestly, dogs that live in a family and clearly know their status is at the bottom of the pack are the most reliable, relaxed and happy dogs.
This is what you should aim for.

Sounds like there are a few issues. Separation anxiety, ignoring commands and aggression. Could you please explain in more detail what happened during the fights? Did he bark at the dogs and then attack? Where the other dogs on a leash the whole time? Did he bite? How did you separate them?
Have you got a fully fenced yard where he could run around without a leash before you take him for a walk?
Thanks!
John
Posted by Mich
Feb 17, 2009
Hi, Details of the fight. Jake was off his lead and the two terriers were on long extendable leads. One of the dogs barked at Jake and Jake barked back, with that the two dogs on leads ran towards him and they were all biting each others faces. I got one of the dogs away with my foot. To separated Jake and the brown terrier I had hold of each of their collars and pulled them apart (after 3 attemps). Jake ended up with at scrape from is ear to his jawline.

One other episode of aggression: jake was off his lead playing with 4 othe dogs. One of the owners was swinging her dogs lead and tangled her dog in it. She lifted her dogs front legs and it snarled at her. Jake went straight into red alert and went to see what was happening and proceeded to nip the dogs neck - I had to go and get him as he would not "leave it" I can see what my mistake was but how to I get him back?

We live in a small house in the countryside, no children yet we are trying to tackle these problems first lol. We can throw a ball in our garden for Jake to chase before we go on a walk! We work full time so we walk him for 20 mins before and 45 mins after. Hope this helps and if you need anymore info let me know. Thank you!
Posted by Mich
Feb 19, 2009
[QUOTE=LetsPlay;3022]Hi Michelle,

sounds like your dog is a bit of a handful at the moment.
I'm confident that with the right training and some time investment he will turn out to be an awesome dog.
Perhaps he has taken advantage of your lack of knowledge or leadership as you mentioned.

One thing is very important: Everyone in your household has to have a higher rank than he does, you and your partner need to be the Alpha Dogs, if you have any children he needs to accept commands from them just as readily as from you. He is at the bottom of the pack, no matter what.
It's the best place for him to be, because it means that he is well taken care of. He won't have to worry about hunting his own food, you will provide it for him (keeping the best piece for yourself of course), he won't have to worry about strangers or other dogs entering your territory, as you will take care of it. He can just be relaxed.
He won't have to worry about protecting you from strange dogs on your walks, as you are the one taking care of him.
Honestly, dogs that live in a family and clearly know their status is at the bottom of the pack are the most reliable, relaxed and happy dogs.
This is what you should aim for.

Sounds like there are a few issues. Separation anxiety, ignoring commands and aggression. Could you please explain in more detail what happened during the fights? Did he bark at the dogs and then attack? Where the other dogs on a leash the whole time? Did he bite? How did you separate them?
Have you got a fully fenced yard where he could run around without a leash before you take him for a walk?
Thanks!
John[/QUOTE]

Hi, Details of the fight. Jake was off his lead and the two terriers were on long extendable leads. One of the dogs barked at Jake and Jake barked back, with that the two dogs on leads ran towards him and they were all biting each others faces. I got one of the dogs away with my foot. To separated Jake and the brown terrier I had hold of each of their collars and pulled them apart (after 3 attemps). Jake ended up with at scrape from is ear to his jawline.

One other episode of aggression: jake was off his lead playing with 4 othe dogs. One of the owners was swinging her dogs lead and tangled her dog in it. She lifted her dogs front legs and it snarled at her. Jake went straight into red alert and went to see what was happening and proceeded to nip the dogs neck - I had to go and get him as he would not "leave it" I can see what my mistake was but how to I get him back?

We live in a small house in the countryside, no children yet we are trying to tackle these problems first lol. We can throw a ball in our garden for Jake to chase before we go on a walk! We work full time so we walk him for 20 mins before and 45 mins after. Hope this helps and if you need anymore info let me know. Thank you!
Posted by KOPsBecks
Feb 26, 2009
I think its probably best that you keep Jake on an extendable lead at the moment when walking him so you do have that added control and the ability to get him out of a fight situation without risking getting hurt yourself.
He has obviously experienced a fright when he got into the scrap with the other dogs and now is uncertain about how to act around aggressive dogs as he is probably scared it will happen again. I would suggest that when your out walking, reward and praise him for nice calm friendly behaviour and when he interacts with other dogs reassure him, keep talking to him. If he acts aggressively towards another dog pull sharply on the lead and firmly say "NO!". Then reward straight away if he listens and stops what he was doing. Be very wary of dogs off-lead approaching Jake as he may feel very threatened by these dogs and things could get out of control very quickly. The best dogs to encourage interaction with would be calm friendly dogs that are on lead and have owners that show good control over their dogs. Interaction with these sorts of dogs will help jake get his confidence back so he does not feel the need to be aggressive towards other dogs.

Hope this helps,

Becks
Posted by Mich
Feb 27, 2009
Hi Becks, thank you so much for your response! I know which dogs will bark at Jake so I can prepare in advance now I know the correction and then praise when calm and focusing on me. I will make sure he spends more time with his calm Friends, Sammy, Buster, Toby & Flossy. Me and my partner are working on ignoring Jake when we get in from work and he is calming down much quicker. Also going back to basics with sit and stay which does work when passing agressive dogs in the street. One problem I would love to solve is when we have travelled somewhere in the car and its time to get out he is just so excited he scrambles until he is out on the ground - I am worried that he will hurt himself (2 door car) as we have to let the seat forward and unseatbelt him before he can go anywhere. Any tips would be much appreciated
Posted by KOPsBecks
Feb 27, 2009
Hey Mich,

I would suggest taking Jake out for trips in the car and then stopping somewhere and using another command eg "CALM" or "WAIT" and if he stops scrabbling then let him out. Keep repeating the trip again and again, sometimes don't even get out of the car, sometimes only you get out and don't let Jake out. It is like any other unwanted behaviour, don't accept bad behaviour and praise good behaviour.

Hope this helps,

Becks