food obsessed and overexcited dog

Posted by drp11n
Sep 20, 2010
i have 2 dogs which are both food obsessed. we have to feed them in seperate rooms otherwise they get agressive with each other for being near their food. they gulp it down so fast that sometimes they spew it back up. the main problem is that the older dog steals our food as well. he will get up on the kitchen bench and steal food off there, he will go through the bin and take scraps out of it, he steals steaks off the bbq if unattended for more than a second, he will even steal loaves of bread and knock pots of pasta off the bench to get into it. Then when we are eating dinner they will sit uncomfortably close to us and watch our every move while drooling over the food, sometimes even trying to quickly snatch some off us. the younger dog is now starting to get on the bench too and I really do not know how to stop it.

my younger dog is a labradoodle and about a year old. We have a real problem with her being over excited all the time. When we take her for walks she whines and jumps everywhere because she is so excited and pulls so hard that she is basically choking herself, and will no longer listen to any commands and just goes where she feels like. at home she will follow me everywhere i go, she may be fast asleep and if i get up and go in teh other room she will get up and follow me and always gets in the way of my feet. she jumps up on you and is constantly in your face for attention, whether it be licking, constantly shaking hands with you (when you put her foot down off you she just keeps putting it back up). we have had some obedience training but it is often hard to get her to calm down to do it in the first place.

any advise you might have on either problem would be helpful.

thanks
Posted by KOPCaroline
Sep 20, 2010
Hey drp.


Just a couple quick questions...how old and what breed is your older dog? Has he always been so food obsessed, or is it a new behaviour? Can you limit his access to the kitchen?

If you train with the two, don't use food as a reward. Instead give them attention or a toy. You don't want to encourage their insanity over food, and trying to train them with it probably will just help the behaviour persist, as well as make your training sessions harder for them to concentrate on.

It sounds like your labradoodle is learning the food stealing off the older dog, so try to limit his access to the kitchen as well. Doggy gates, or closed doors work well usually.

As far as the overexciteable pup, part of it Im sure is puppy behaviour. To try and decrease it, keep him on a lead when you walk him and literally stop and tell him "sit" until he listens, everytime he starts the unwanted behaviour. "Heel" is a great command to teach these dogs, even if it does take a bit for them to catch on. My pup used to run off at the park, so I kept him on a lead until he learned to listen to me. You can get an extendable lead and let him go a bit further as he progresses through listening to you, that way you can still get him back. Have you considered using a halti or gentle leader? There also so called "anti-pull" collars, like the Lupi lead, which you could look into getting.

Try to stimulate him at home as much as you can. Kong toys, sand pits with buried toys, interactive games with you and your family, all these can help your dog get more energy out in an environment where you can control where he goes.

Its a start, if you could answer my first questions, hopefully I can get a better idea of your food obsession problem
Posted by drp11n
Sep 21, 2010
thanks for your reply KOPcaroline. the older dog is a kelpie and he is 2 yrs old. we have always had this problem with him along with a lot of other behavioural problems. one of the main things with the eating could be because he is on antihistalone tablets which also have some cortizone in it which makes him extra hungry, they are for an allergy problem he has causing him to scratch himself so much he creates scabs and tears his hair out. We have to keep him on the tablets for life though as he is allergic to most things in dog food and the environment. The main reason why we got the second dog was for the older one to have company as we were not often home, that has helped with the escaping but I feel like with the other things they are starting to rub off onto the other dog. We do have a special collar for walking that tightens the more they pull on it, kind of similar to a choker but this one isnt supposed to hurt the dog. it works well on the older dog but the labradoodle will pretty much choke herself and doesnt realise. I put it down to still being a pup and having labradore in her. But if something is going on like someone coming to the door or feeding time or just me going out the front door in general it is a big struggle to get past without her bounding out the door and she just wont listen to any commands at all. Also both are not very interested in toys at all, the younger one will fetch for a bit but the older dog just tears apart any toy we leave out there
Posted by KOPCaroline
Sep 21, 2010
Hey drp,

Ah, yea, the medication will make it a bit harder since it does have a degree of an appetite stimulant effect. You could try feeding many small meals to the dogs throughout the day, instead of one or two bigger ones, this can help curb their madness to get at food. It might be tricky, dependent on your life schedule, but try upping the number of times they get fed.

I think blocking access to the kitchen, especially when you're not in it, is a good idea if they're stealing food off the counter. You might to teach them an "out" command and see how that goes for times when you are in the kitchen. Even if it teaches them to drool from the doorway, its better than being under your feet while you're cooking or eating. Try training them on it, and when they don't listen, immediately put them in a time out situation - a dark room by themselves, or their kennel/crate inside, or put them in their house outside. Being totally shut out of the situation if they get in the way could help them get the point.

For the labradoodle, I'm sure some of it is puppy behaviour. My own dog, Jackson, is about a year and 4 months now, and he still gets very excited over other dogs.

A way to help in the house for those times when he charges a door or the like, is to desensitize him to the stimuli that set him off. If it becomes "old hat" and boring, he shouldn't get so amped over it everytime. Act out what happens when you leave (put your coat on, shoes on, etc), head to the door, put your hand on the knob, and open - as soon as he charges, slam the door shut in his face (try not to catch him in it, but if he gets his head knocked a bit it will only help reinforce NOT to charge the door ). Do it repeatedly, until he gets the point. Once he stops charging, start giving a "wait" command, and rewarding him when he listens. You can do the same with other triggers - the doorbell, getting food out (slam the cabinet door where the food is kept, etc), just repeat the processes, step by step, until he starts to calm down. When he realizes you're not actually doing what he thinks you are (to completion, anyway), he'll get bored and used to the triggers.

I hope this helps, sounds like you've got a handful in your house! Good luck!!
Posted by drp11n
Sep 21, 2010
thanks for the advise i will definately have to give it a go. and yes they are quite a handful!!! im hoping they start calming down soon, the older one should in the next yr or so and then im hoping the other one will follow