How to get rid of flies?

Posted by elmariachino
Feb 12, 2008
Hello,
I live in one of the most warm countries, Saudi Arabia.
Though I managed to create a very nice environment for my 7 months GSD, with the tempreture risisng, hundreds of flies make his life miserable during the day...
Many experimentals to get rid of these pests turned unsuccessful.
The flea and tick spray, a Hartz product, allows to keep them away for some hours, but i guess this is not a good solution.
Please HELP!
Posted by Steph-ampWyatt
Feb 16, 2008
Hello elmariachino,
I don't know much about flies, especially in Saudia Arabia, but try going on line and typing in "flies on dogs"I think you might find some answers there.Do you bath your GS?
good luck
Posted by elmariachino
Feb 20, 2008
Hello Stephanie,
A friend of mine just gave the following recipie: in equal quantites, Organic Apple Cider Vinegar + Nice Smelling Liquid Soap (i'll use dog shampoo) + Water. Mixed well and stored in a pray container.
I'll let you know about the result.
Thank You.
Posted by Steph-ampWyatt
Feb 21, 2008
hi elmariachino,
I'll keep my fingers crossed for you! If that doesn't work they do have remedies online
good luck
Steph & Wyatt
Posted by elmariachino
Feb 26, 2008
hi Steph,
my latest trial was not successful (or at least not efficient enough).
I am going through the net to check for a good product (though most of the suppliers do not deliver overseas).
Today a friend told me that a local equine store sells such products.
Will go to check right after work
Thanks for your concern
George
Posted by Blue
Feb 27, 2008
Hi,
Because of the quantity of flies you're describing, be wary of something called fly strike, especially if your dog gets sick at all or has diarrhea.

My dog growing up was a 13 year old Airedale terrier, we kept her trimmed down during the summer, but one summer about two years before she passed on, she got really really sick - we took her to the vet and she was on meds.

We cleaned her thoroughly after every time she made a mess but it still wasn't enough.

She got fly strike.

Fly strike occurs when flies are attracted to sick/dirty/dying or slow (too slow to avoid or bite the flies away) animals, the flies lay their eggs in the dogs fur. When the maggots hatch, at first they just eat whatever dirt they find in the fur (feces, debris that gets caught, old skin etc) eventually though, they start attacking the dog. It is very hard to see them in dogs with thick fur, you have to dig down past the surface layer.

With our Airedale, she had a traditional Airedale trim - longer fur on the hind legs - and we didn't see them at first.

To make a long story short, we ended up with her at the vets, on a strong dose of antibiotics and her butt was trimmed right down. The vet did not have knowledge of fly strike in dogs until my mum who had researched it, told her about it.

We found out after the vet did more research that we were lucky to have caught it so soon, as often there is the potential for the maggots to enter the dogs body and travel along the spine under the skin - causing paralysis/death.

Because we were not informed of this hazard for long fur dogs, I think it is very important for dog owners to know that this can happen - especially during periods of large populations of flies.

Don't panic or anything! (sorry for the dramatic story!)
Just keep an eye on your dogs health and check it's fur once in a while - especially when sick.

Blue
Posted by elmariachino
Feb 27, 2008
Thank you Blue,

What you just mentioned seems serious.

I am researching day and night for a solution to this nightmare.
As per the hint of Steph i ordered some products online.
And I will prepare tomorrow some home made recipies ([url=http://www.equine-world.co.uk/horses_care/fly-repel.htm]Home-made fly repellents for horses[/url]).

It's been a couple of days Cheena is having diarrhea in the morning, I think (and I hope) it's because of the night's chilli weather.

Now you opened my eyes to a possible serious problem.

I'm starting a new research about fly strike now.

I know eventually i will find a proper solution for those pests, I just hope it will be the soonest.

Thans once again.

George
Posted by Steph-ampWyatt
Feb 27, 2008
Hi George,
Blues right, also if your dog gets a cut or sore they will zero in on it and lay their eggs,do you feed your dog garlic? it seems to help repel insects? also is Cheena ( I like that name) in an area that you can put something around the perimeter? I've heard baggies half filled with water hung in doorways etc... seem to repel flies for some reason( so the old wife's tell goes) we're all rooting for you & cheena I hope he's feeling better, steam some rice and mix w/ his food it helps keep us posted on how he's doing and I will keep checking and asking around about remedies for you
Good luck and keep posting
Steph & Wyatt
Posted by Blue
Feb 27, 2008
I just remembered, aromatic cedar chips are excellent flea/moth/insect repellents, you could try laying some cedar chips down as a "bed" for Cheena.
Mint is also a repellent scent - can you grow mint in your climate?
I also found this link for horse fly repellents - including cedar oils, rosemary and citronella oils...
[url=http://www.petvetsupply.com/noname9.html]Natural Fly Repellent Ready to Use[/url]
Blue
Posted by elmariachino
Feb 28, 2008
Hi Steph and Blue,
I really appreciate your concern
As for garlic i'm still hesitant about using it as I know it can be deadly for pets.
An old local wiz told about the baggies half filled with water... unseccessful.
I will try the rice thing (i never heard about it before).
Regarding the aromatic cedar ships... porbably I can't find it in Saudi Arabia, but I will order some from homeland (I'm from Lebanon and Lebanon is known for its cedars).
I'm afraid with the desert climate here, growing mint is not possible.
I know already that citronella oil can be very harmful for dogs, but today I am visiting the horse supply store, I hope i will be able to find some good products.

I'll keep you informed about the latest results.

Thank you once again for your help.
George

[I]I checked Wyatt's picture on the forum... handsome boy [/I]
Posted by Blue
Feb 28, 2008
Hi George,
I'm pretty sure you'd be fine with the diluted citronella oils that are found in non-chemical bug repellents for horses. Online you can find remote training collars that are for gently spraying a dog when it's misbehaving - many of them contain a citronella solution-as it is distasteful to a dogs sense of smell.
But I'm sure mixed in with other herb oils it wouldn't be half as distracting, and better than the flies .
Let us know how it's going!
Blue
Posted by Steph-ampWyatt
Feb 28, 2008
Thanks George, I think he is too! I would love to see a pic of Cheena, I googled "flies on dogs" and found a number of products and remedies , 2 products that dog owners said worked were: SWAT and FLYS OFF, plus I found links to alot of different sites dealing with the issue that seemed to have alot of information, also Dogs can have Garlic, they actually make a chewable garlic tablet for dogs called "bugs off", if you have a problem getting to any of the sites please let me know and I will put in some links. I'll keep checking for you, we'll find something to help Cheena......
please keep me posted
Steph & Wyatt

PS: a quick note for Blue...
I found a photo of your "girl " she is adorable, and what a bundle of energy she must be.... also Congradulations, I noticed your a moderator now, as well you should be, you are very knowledgable and have exellent advice.
Posted by Blue
Feb 28, 2008
Thank you Stephanie, yes, she is quite the bundle of energy outside, but inside she is a mellow wannabe couch potato .
I will post a piccy of her in the Dog Lovers corner at some point!!
Any news George?
Blue
Posted by elmariachino
Mar 1, 2008
Hello my friends,
This week I am trying Bronco ( [url=http://www.horse.com/products/sku-BUL07QSid-40scode-hnextag.html]Bronco Fly Repellent - Horse.com[/url] ), the merchant in the horse supply shop said it's the best product he has (here they sell it for the equivalant of USD 20, I was surprised when I saw the price on the net). It seems to be efficient prividing I spray it every couple of hours. But it has to be carefully around the nose an the eyes, though it's there where the flies attack mostly.
My friend is coming today from Lebanon and is bringing a product from there, and another friend coming from the States next week is bringing another product.
I'll try ezch one of the for one week to check which is the best.
Furthermore i am adding some garlic powder to Cheena's food on daily basis.
I'll let you know about the results.

For your infos, in this country dog is considered a cursed animal ( [url=http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,212980,00.html]FOXNews.com - Saudi Arabia's Religious Police Issue Ban on Pet Cats, Dogs - Middle East Map | News | Crisis[/url] ), and there are many related products very diffucult if not impossible to find (after I microchipped Cheena, I was chocked to find out that in the whole country there isn't any reader that can scan the chip; nobody has never heard about the dog training clicker, dog tags can be found as ornement jewelry but you will never find anybody who can print on them.....)
Having a dog is not an easy thing here.
I really appreciate your help.

Blue, I read your Katrina dog's story but i couldn't find a picture of her.
Steph here's Cheena's pic (I will post another one later)

[IMG]C:\Documents and Settings\GAssaf\Desktop\CHINA\Pics\cheena3.jpeg[/IMG]
Posted by Steph-ampWyatt
Mar 1, 2008
Hi George,
I read the article,I can't imagine a world where dogs(and cats) were not loved and cherished,I couldn't figure out how to look Cheenas pics, if you go to the "Dog Lovers Corner" and click the paperclip it should tell you how to post there. I found a couple of products (pyrethrin or permethrin sprays or oniments), VIP Fly repellent and good old Vicks Vapor-rub or Vasoline to protect his ears,I'll keep looking.....sorry if I seem in a hurry, this is the 3rd time I've written this it wouldn't let me post for some reason(maybe I took to long) so I had to keep starting over
Good Luck and Best Wishes
Steph & Wyatt
Posted by elmariachino
Mar 2, 2008
This is my Girl, I'll try to take better shots.
Posted by Steph-ampWyatt
Mar 4, 2008
What a beautiful Girl, I don't know why I thought she was a he, you can sure tell shes still a pup, she hasn't growin in to those BIG feet & ears yet.I'll post some more of Wyatt too
Posted by Blue
Mar 5, 2008
Beautiful pup indeed! How big is she already?
Posted by elmariachino
Mar 5, 2008
Thank you
For me, she is the most beautiful of all dogs.
Now she's eight months old.
She was bought by a local spoiled boy and as I told you before about the attitude towards dogs here, his father refused to have her at home. Nobody knows what the boy did bout her before he gave her to a friend of mine who already has a male german shpherd. She was in a very pitiful state, skinny, full of ticks (there were so many ticks sucking her blood she had an anemia). So I adopted her... She's a sweetheart. Since then I spend most of my free time (which is not that much) with her, that I broke up with my girl, loool.

And guess what my friends... NO MORE FLIES. Or to be fair, just some occasional flies wandering arounf her. I don't know if it's this product i told you about (Bronco) or the garlic powder i'm adding to her food.... but I am happy about the results so far.
I'll keep trying to prevent even the occasional flies from teasing her.
I appreciate your help
Thank you
Posted by Steph-ampWyatt
Mar 5, 2008
yaaaa hooooo! ding dong the flies are gone(or greatly reduced) I am sooooo glad to hear that,Cheena must feel a lot better,and I know you must be relieved. Cheenas a very lucky phooch to have you george! are the flys still bothering her ears at all?
keep us posted
best wishes to you and Cheena
Steph & Wyatt