8-wk old Puppy w/fleas, worms & loose bowels

Posted by LuvmyPitbull
Jul 7, 2011
Hi Guys,

I have just recently added a new addition to my puppy family . I have a 1yr old Amer. Blue Pit named Alice and just recently brought home an 8wk old Pit/Bichon Frise mix named Bruno. Alice is healthy so Bruno's ailments worry me even more due to this.

When I brought him home he had minor fleas so I started that treatment and it's going well. I am using a flea collar for puppies that is supposed to take care of any adult fleas, larvae & prevent the eggs from hatching, as well as a mild flea shampoo that has Aloe Vera in it and is specificly for sensitive skin.

I have recently discovered he has worms and I am worried he could pass them onto Alice since they share food/water bowls. Is he too young to treat for worms? How extensive is the treatment? I have never had a dog with worms so I'm not sure where to begin on this one...

Also, he will have 1 solid "poo" and the rest of it will be extremely runny. I have also noticed him vomiting the last several days. It's not a lot and it's all liquid (rarely are there food particles), happens maybe 1-2 x's per day. What could be causing this?

Alice has food allergies so I feed her Blue Buffalo Grain Free and I didn't notice anything on the bag that said it was Adult or Puppy formula. I know they do have "adult" but I haven't bought it becuase Alice is just now a yr old. Due to how healthy & hollistic their dog food is I didn't think this would cause Bruno's sicknes....

Any thoughts or suggestions?
Posted by LuvmyPitbull
Jul 14, 2011
I have to say, I am beginning to lose heart in this forum. I have posted several things in different forums and have only gotten 1 response. I guess since I'm not friends with everyone here and no one knows me no one is willing to offer help....thanks guys. Guess I'll keep doing what I'm doing and hope things get better...
Posted by misskris
Jul 15, 2011
Hello!

I just recently joined this sight as well and since I have so much time on my hands, have been reading through so many posts and replies.

I'm SO SORRY to hear about your baby being sick. I have had my mixed breed pup for a month now. She is 13 weeks old. I totally empathize with you. I have taken her to the vet THREE times since I got her because I wanted to be sure she wasn't sick, didn't have a bladder infection, etc... haha. She was fine all three times, but better to be safe than sorry, right?

In the case of your doggy, I am not a vet, but I would definitely say to take her in. Anytime there is vomiting and/or runny stool, it is an indication of something that probably needs medical attention. (if it is consistently happening)

Whenever I have a burning question, I type it into google.com. It gives you a number of different forums, sights, etc. that will give you all different types of information, but you will begin to see a pattern in the information.

If you haven't already taken the pup to the vet, I would call them immediately. Is the pup parvo vaccinated? My pup had roundworms AND tapeworms and was treated for both. One type of treatment was an oral liquid that tastes like banana, given at the time of the visit and another dose to be given two weeks later. The other treatment was a pill, which I slathered in peanut butter so it was easy for her to swallow, also given at the time of treatment and two weeks later. I am unsure whether the worms can be passed to other dogs, but I would say they probably can? Sorry, that's the best advice I can give you.

Hope your baby feels better soon! Please keep me updated on progress!

kris
Posted by LuvmyPitbull
Jul 15, 2011
Hi Kris,
Thank you for the feedback! I have taken Bruno to the vet and it was worms so he has been treated. The Vet said Alice didn't have them but I didn't think to ask if that's becuase she was lucky or becuase they can't be passed from one to the other so I don't know the answer to that either.
I'll have to try your peanut-buttered pills! I had been using slice cheese with Alice's allergy meds but now that she knows there are pills in it she won't even touch the cheese so I've been fighting that battle...
Thank you for your advice and opinions!
Posted by misskris
Jul 15, 2011
I'm so happy they are both well! I totally know how you feel -- when Daisy had worms in her stool, I FREAKED out! hehe

Good luck with the pills for Alice Don't know if you already knew this, but when I was shopping at PetCo, I noticed that some brands of treats (greenies, etc.) make this thing called a "pill pocket". It's basically a treat with a hole in the middle to bury the pill that the dog eats. I'm sure you could do it yourself, like you have been with the cheese and/or peanut butter, but if you wanted more variety, that's an option too.

Maybe if you change up the way you disguise the pill each time you give it to her (i.e., peanut butter, cheese, chicken, etc.), your dog won't know if it's an actual treat or one with the pill inside? heehee. So funny when our own dogs have outsmarted us! haha.

Hope it works and very happy to hear your dogs are both healthy!

kris
Posted by LuvmyPitbull
Jul 15, 2011
I just wanted to thank you guys for your advice with Bruno (8wk old Bichon Frise/Pitbull mix). I took him on as a favor to a friend who was desperate to relocate him. I agreed to hang on to him for a few days (turned into a couple weeks). At first I thought I might keep him but Alice was getting tired of sharing her toys and issues were beginning to arise. My neighbors took him so Alice gets to see her pal regularly without having to share her personal space! Win-Win for all!
Posted by phoenix
Jul 16, 2011
[QUOTE=misskris;6903]I'm so happy they are both well! I totally know how you feel -- when Daisy had worms in her stool, I FREAKED out! hehe

Good luck with the pills for Alice Don't know if you already knew this, but when I was shopping at PetCo, I noticed that some brands of treats (greenies, etc.) make this thing called a "pill pocket". It's basically a treat with a hole in the middle to bury the pill that the dog eats. I'm sure you could do it yourself, like you have been with the cheese and/or peanut butter, but if you wanted more variety, that's an option too.

Maybe if you change up the way you disguise the pill each time you give it to her (i.e., peanut butter, cheese, chicken, etc.), your dog won't know if it's an actual treat or one with the pill inside? heehee. So funny when our own dogs have outsmarted us! haha.

Hope it works and very happy to hear your dogs are both healthy!

kris[/QUOTE]
Hi, I'm new to this forum but have over 30 yrs experience with dogs. It's best NOT to disquise the pill that your dog needs to take. Have you ever seen your vet disquise a pill? If they get to the point where they can taste the pill, its going to be half chewed, lots gooey and maybe near impossible to determine how much went down vs how much is in your hand and on the floor. Best advise (works everytime). Take hold of the pill, have a no-nonsense attitude even if you have to pry the dogs mouth open. No, they won't bite you! Take the pill and gently but firmly put it at the very back of your dogs tongue and push it "down the hatch". You'll always know that your dog got the whole dose. Then give him a treat and he'll forget all about the minute episode.
Phoenix
Posted by misskris
Jul 17, 2011
that idea sounds good too! It was actually my vet who told me to put the pill in peanut butter. haha. I asked her what if she chews the pill and it doesn't go down, but she said don't worry about it, because it will all get down there eventually?!? My Mom used to do that with our lab, shove the pill in the back of her throat and hold her snout together until it went down, but the darn dog had a pretty sneaky GI tract and it always ended up coming back up somewhere around the kitchen or living room. lol. and that was even AFTER she ate the treat after the pill went down...how weird right?!? but, whatever way works for you is great!
Posted by KOPCaroline
Jul 31, 2011
Hey luv my pitbull,

Just wondering if the worms cleared up? My dog, Jackson, had a few bouts of worms as a pup (seeing them in his poo, I'm with you guys on being a bit off-put by that! haha) but after 2 worming treatments with Drontal he cleared right up! (Same goes for my cat, actually...) Just wanted to be sure Bruno cleared the little buggers?

Are the flea collars still working well? I've heard half and half on success vs failure with collars, but then again I've heard the topical treatments dont work for everyone either - it must be an individual dog thing!

And as far as hiding pills, I've never done it with Jackson but thats because he's a vacuum cleaner - just goes down the hatch. I've worked in vet clinics with dogs and cats both who just wouldnt take the pill unless it was in food (my own cat is like this). I found that cream cheese works really well for cats, and hot dogs work well for dogs. As was pointed out though, sometime they can cough bits of the pill back up, so if you do put the pill into whatever food works, be sure you do it in a room where you can watch your dog eat the whole thing and not bring anything back up - just stay a couple minutes to be sure, and give a big "good dog!" for taking it like a champ
Posted by LuvmyPitbull
Aug 4, 2011
Yes, I made sure he was clear of them before I gave him to his new owner's. Now rather or not they have come back since his relocation I don't know but they haven't mentioned anything to me.

As far as the flea collars go, they seemed to work with him but he didn't have a real bad case of them. With Alice I use a combination of topical once a month and the collar year round. But with her it's just a preventative measure as she has never had a problem with fleas.