Puppy Food Recommendations

Posted by la4ce
Jan 21, 2010
Hi! I am new to the forum and recently adopted two dogs. Lexi is a Shih Tzu mix and Marley is a hound mix with one blue eye. Lexi weighs about 13 lbs while Marley weighs about 35 lbs. They are both inside dogs at the moment. I will have to keep using small kibble due to Lexi's size but am confused on how to tell if the dog food is good for them or not.

I was told that the first ingredient tells a lot about the food. Currently they are eating something with corn as the first ingredient. I had them on Iams puppy food and they didn't care for the taste of it. Purina puppy chow gave them diarrhea and I don't want to spend an arm and a leg on food.

Also don't know the correct quantities to feed them. They are both about 6 mths old and I feed them breakfast and supper.

Please give me your suggestions!:confused:
Posted by kjd
Jan 21, 2010
Hi, la4ce!

Congratulations on your two new companions!

When you changed from Iams to Purina, did you do it gradually, starting by mixing a bit of Purina in with the Iams, increasing the Purina portion each feeding? Many dogs will have digestive problems with a sudden change in diet.

I gather you don't know what the dogs were eating before you adopted them. That is usually the best food to start out with.

My understanding is that dogs cannot digest corn, so a dog food with corn as the first ingredient is not good. Try to get a dog food with meat as the first ingredient. If you want to stay with Purina, they have many different lines of dog food, so you should be able to find one with less corn. Whatever food you decide on, decide on it based on how good it is for your dogs. Although your dogs may say they don't care for the taste, they'll learn to like whatever they are fed. No dog has been known to starve to death because he didn't like the flavor of his food! Just put down their dishes in the morning and the evening; then remove them 20 minutes later regardless of how much they have eaten. They may skip a day or so -- then they'll decide the food is delicious.

As for amount: start with the suggested amount on the back of the package and adjust as you watch the dogs. If they start to put on weight, reduce their food; if their ribs begin to show, increase the food. How much they need is going to depend on their individual metabolisms and how much exercise they get.

Good wishes for you and your two,
kjd
Posted by crazycrayonmom
Jan 21, 2010
Higher quality food also means smaller meal sizes and smaller doggie bombs. Good quality food has less fillers in it so you feed the dog less. My vet had a very neat display of how much dog food you need to feed your dog on a lower quality food and how much you had to use with the higher quality food and then a cost comparison for both. The more expensive food actually costs less in the long run because you feed less! An added bonus is that their poops are smaller because there's less waste.

I'm a fan of a brand called Nutrisource. I've been using it for years and all my dogs have done well on it.

As kjd said, when you change your dogs' food do it gradually mixing in a little of the new stuff in with the old. It's sort of like if you spent your whole life eating bland foods and then someone said no more for you! Here, eat this spicy burrito. You'd probably get diarrhea too.

Don't forget that at six months of age your pups should still be on puppy food. I've read some sources that recommend puppy food until the age of 2!
Posted by kjd
Jan 21, 2010
Well, crazycrayonmom,

Your mention of a dog food I never heard of sent me off on a search and I found this web site: [url=http://www.dogfoodanalysis.com/]Dog Food Analysis - Reviews of kibble[/url]. If I am to trust the reviews, all with only one review, you and I have been using 3-star foods for our dogs. I am going to look into the 6-star ones.

OTOH, it looks as if all Purina's foods rate only one-star and a friend whose husband is a vet said they feed all their dogs Purina. Go figure!

kjd
Posted by crazycrayonmom
Jan 22, 2010
Thanks for the link. I'll have to check availability in my area on some of these foods. I'm also going to do more research on the grain-free thing.
Posted by kjd
Jan 22, 2010
Great! Let us hear what you find out.

FWIW, I have heard about corn being useless for at least 20 years -- and it is still in dog food! I'd never known wheat was a problem until the vet behavioralist I hired to help Zoey told me it, and all its relatives, caused problems for many dogs. Dogs' cousins eat the stomachs of their kill, so they are used to some grains. Corn, OTOH, being a special development of man, may not ever appear in a wild herbivore's stomach. Wheat is now a known allergen for people.

kjd
Posted by la4ce
Feb 3, 2010
Thanks for the advice. I switched to "Dog Whisperer" organic puppy food by Cesar Milan. The shih tzu mix doesn't care for it but I am going to stick with it and see what happens. Maybe they don't need to eat as much since it is better for them. We'll see. Thanks for the website reference. It sent my husband and I on a mission to check out dog food ingredients! Very disappointed to find most of them list corn first.

I am also having trouble with my hound mix stealing food off the table and kitchen counter. She always seems hungry. It doesn't matter how many times she gets into trouble that doesn't deter her. They seem to double team us and one distracts us while the other steals our food. I should record it sometimes it would be comical if I wasn't hungry myself!!!
Posted by kjd
Feb 3, 2010
Same thing with me la4ce. I learned a long time ago that corn was not good for dogs, but it is hard to find one in the grocery store that is not filled with corn. In fact, when my dogs started getting a bit heavy, I would put them on Fit & Trim look at it, you don't see any meat until the 7th ingredient! No wonder the dogs lost weight they weren't getting any food!

I think Sunna researches the price of food when I'm not around. She goes for the most expensive she can find! She also likes variety. She gobbled up EVO for the first few days, then said it wasn't worth much. I've been being careful to keep it sealed so it stays fresh. Fortunately, she doesn't seem to have a delicate stomach as I will have to rotate the food every couple of days.

Sunna counter-surfed once and I began making sure food was out of her reach. Zoey learned the hard way that counter-surfing was unproductive. I'd fixed a mixture of cottage cheese and blueberries, both popular with her. When my back was turned, she knocked it on the floor. Now, everyone knows it is a univeral law that food on the floor belongs to the dog. I made her sit outside the kitchen while I cleaned it all up and threw it in the trash. She learned the second part of that law: if the dog knocks it on the floor it isn't on the floor. She never counter-surfed again and she loved everything but lemons and limes! She didn't even steal things out of the trash.