How do I crate/house train multiple dogs?

Posted by AndreaG
Mar 26, 2009
I'll try to make this to the point.

I have 3 dogs. During the day while at work they all cohabitate in a blocked off den with a doggie door.
5 yr old female spayed powder-puff Chinese crested - occasional accident at night if she can’t get out of the house. I had occassionally let her sleep in the bedroom on her bed, but on occasion would find that she would wander off in the house at night to releive herself or if I closed the door she would occassionally releiver herself in the bedroom - not always, only if she happened to have to go.
3 yr old male intact hairless Chinese crested - will mark in the main house (but not in the den, new items (mostly grocery bags, boxes, backpacks, garbage bags) and will pee in house if he feels like it. (Will pee in the den if it is raining outside and he doesn't want to go out and get wet or cold)
4 month old little bitty male (yet to be neutered) yorkie pup. Using pee pad most of the time. If in the main house, not the den, will pee wherever he feels.

All three will use the doggie door to eliminate outside during the day.
It seems when I get home, my male crested will pee on the leg of the table in the den sometimes. I don’t know whether this is a jealousy / territory / dominance thing or what. It seems that (unless it’s inclement weather) everything is fine till I get home.
I can’t trust any of them loose in the main house for fear that they will pee somewhere they shouldn't.
I have read that using a crate for 3 days straight will do the trick in regards to housebreaking. Is this true? I am willing to take a day off of work to get this accomplished if it works. If so, what are the steps to housebreaking with a crate? Do I keep them all in their crates all day and let them out at scheduled times to eliminate?
They are wonderful loving pets but I need to figure out how to get them all to go outside ALL THE TIME to eliminate. I would love for them to use their crates whenever they feel they need their space. Also, should I crate them at night? They currenlty all sleep "loose" in the den together. The Yorkie will sometimes use the bigger dog's crate for his naps or at night to sleep (the door is removed from this crate.) For now I would like to use thier crates for housebreaking but need to know how to do it correctly and dont want them to end up hating their crates. Also, at this point the two older dogs do not use thier crates at all. And the little guy only goes into the bigger dogs crate. (I think the crate I got for him is too small but I'm not sure!)

Thanks for any help or suggestions.
Posted by KOPsarah
Apr 15, 2009
Thanks for any help or suggestions.

Hi andrea, thanks for your question. I think you have two problems here with your little pack that are leaving the dogs confused. First of all from what you describe here I would say you have dominance issues especially with the 3 year old intact male. Castrating the male is a very good option as it will almost definitely reduce dominance problems including his peeing on new objects in the house. Castration or males also drastically reduces their chance of developing prostate cancer.

Asserting your self as alpha dog of the pack will also help with all three dogs. Currently your dogs are unsure of their position in the pack because they don’t identify anyone as leader. They are therefore adopting various aspects of the dominant role themselves such as urinating in your house but not in their own. However once they know their position is at the bottom of the pack they will be happy to follow instructions and are very loyal.

Following the alpha dog training will definitely help show the dogs their position. It is important to remember the key points of dominance.

In a wild dog pack the dominant pack member controls :
-access to food
-access to favoured sleeping areas
-any interactions with lower pack members
-access to favoured items such as toys

In order to show your dog his position as bottom of the pack you and your whole family can take advantage of these keys points. For example

1) The dogs must be the last to eat at every meal and should never get treats from the table.

2) They should never walk through doors before you. A good way to practice this is to walk around the house and make them sit at each doorway and wait.

3) If either of your dogs is lying in the hallway or anywhere you have to get past make them move. If you think they will snap leave a lead on them so you can move them whilst maintaining a bit of distance.

4) When you arrive home completely ignore the dogs for 15 minutes. Don't look at them, talk to them or pat them. After this go to them and give them some quiet attention only as long as they are relaxed and calm.

The second issue I think your dogs are confused about it where exactly is appropriate to toilet. I recommend picking a particular area of the lawn where you want the dogs to toilet and where they have access to while you are at work, they may already have an area they use. Once you have an area its time to start re-toilet training. Take your dogs out to the toilet spot as soon as they wake up in the morning, after every feeding and before bed as these are the most likely times a dog will need to go to the toilet. Also put them outside in the toilet area every hour while they are inside the house with you during the day. Praise them for toileting in the area everytime you seem them use it.

As well as putting the dogs out to the toilet before bed establish a routine where they are exercised daily as this encourages toileting outside and improves general well being. Also try feeding dinner early so they will not need to drink so much late at night. Get them familiar with their crates and then use them as their beds at night time. This familiarization can include feeding them in their crates, rewarding calm behavior while in the crate and providing favorite toys and treats while in them. Place their favorite blankets inside them and allow the dogs to associate their crates with quite rest. Only allow each dog into its own crate with the door closed to stop the others entering. Their crates will then be their personal quite space that they sleep in at night. This will make them unlikely to urinate in their beds and unable to urinate around your house.

Establishing your self as pack leader and a good routine for toileting and bed time should help your dogs know their place in your household and respect you and your floor. Don't hesitate to let me know if you need any further assitance with your dogs.
Posted by AndreaG
May 23, 2009
[QUOTE=KOPsarah;3385]Thanks for any help or suggestions.

Hi andrea, thanks for your question. I think you have two problems here with your little pack that are leaving the dogs confused. First of all from what you describe here I would say you have dominance issues especially with the 3 year old intact male. Castrating the male is a very good option as it will almost definitely reduce dominance problems including his peeing on new objects in the house. Castration or males also drastically reduces their chance of developing prostate cancer.

Asserting your self as alpha dog of the pack will also help with all three dogs. Currently your dogs are unsure of their position in the pack because they don’t identify anyone as leader. They are therefore adopting various aspects of the dominant role themselves such as urinating in your house but not in their own. However once they know their position is at the bottom of the pack they will be happy to follow instructions and are very loyal.

Following the alpha dog training will definitely help show the dogs their position. It is important to remember the key points of dominance.

In a wild dog pack the dominant pack member controls :
-access to food
-access to favoured sleeping areas
-any interactions with lower pack members
-access to favoured items such as toys

In order to show your dog his position as bottom of the pack you and your whole family can take advantage of these keys points. For example

1) The dogs must be the last to eat at every meal and should never get treats from the table.

2) They should never walk through doors before you. A good way to practice this is to walk around the house and make them sit at each doorway and wait.

3) If either of your dogs is lying in the hallway or anywhere you have to get past make them move. If you think they will snap leave a lead on them so you can move them whilst maintaining a bit of distance.

4) When you arrive home completely ignore the dogs for 15 minutes. Don't look at them, talk to them or pat them. After this go to them and give them some quiet attention only as long as they are relaxed and calm.

The second issue I think your dogs are confused about it where exactly is appropriate to toilet. I recommend picking a particular area of the lawn where you want the dogs to toilet and where they have access to while you are at work, they may already have an area they use. Once you have an area its time to start re-toilet training. Take your dogs out to the toilet spot as soon as they wake up in the morning, after every feeding and before bed as these are the most likely times a dog will need to go to the toilet. Also put them outside in the toilet area every hour while they are inside the house with you during the day. Praise them for toileting in the area everytime you seem them use it.

As well as putting the dogs out to the toilet before bed establish a routine where they are exercised daily as this encourages toileting outside and improves general well being. Also try feeding dinner early so they will not need to drink so much late at night. Get them familiar with their crates and then use them as their beds at night time. This familiarization can include feeding them in their crates, rewarding calm behavior while in the crate and providing favorite toys and treats while in them. Place their favorite blankets inside them and allow the dogs to associate their crates with quite rest. Only allow each dog into its own crate with the door closed to stop the others entering. Their crates will then be their personal quite space that they sleep in at night. This will make them unlikely to urinate in their beds and unable to urinate around your house.

Establishing your self as pack leader and a good routine for toileting and bed time should help your dogs know their place in your household and respect you and your floor. Don't hesitate to let me know if you need any further assitance with your dogs.[/QUOTE]


Thanks for your response.

I have one more question. When re-toilet training the three of them should they all be crated during the day and let out to thier designated spot on a lead? And I'm assuming it would be best to bring them each separately.

I can take the time to be around to take them out of thier crates during the day at regular intervals if need be. Also, if you suggest that I crate them during the day (especially if I need to be at work for a few hours) should I also let them all out after their toilet break to have a romp with each other and me?

Thanks
Andrea
Posted by KOPsarah
Jun 1, 2009
Hi again,
Yes crating them for a few hours while you are out would work best. When you get home take them out to the toilet one by one, praising when they go to the toilet outside. The more regularly you can take them out to the toilet the more successful the toilet training will be. When they have all been out let them have a good play to burn off some energy and offer them toys in their crates to keep them occupied during the day and prevent bad behavior developing from boredom.