How to teach the dog the differnciate trick?

Posted by 3eteiba
Oct 23, 2011
the trick is like when u tell him for example: Max get me the remote and he gets it.
How do i achieve this important trick?
Posted by MaxHollyNoah
Oct 25, 2011
Hi 3eteiba,

This thread should be posted under "Dog Training" rather than "Dog Lovers Corner" but I will give you some suggesions anyway.

First of all, "Fetching a remote" is rather an advanced trick. You might think it is a simple trick but it is actually a sequence of several different actions and your dog needs to be able to master the following actions first:

1. Item recognition - your dog needs to know what the remote is
2. Go to a location - your dog needs to go where the remote is at your command
3. Pick up an object and hold it in his mouth - this is rather difficult since dogs don't like to put a metal or plastic stuff in their mouth. Balls or stuffed toys are much easier
4. Bring the object back to you
5. Release the object

You would first need to teach your dog basic commands before you teach him such tricks. After he masters basic commands and how to pay attention to what you ask him to do, you would like to teach this trick from backward (#5 above). In other words, teach him to "take an object" and "drop it". Also, it will be very helpful if he has learned how to "fetch a ball". It is a good way to burn energy of your dog, because Golden Retriever puppies are full of energy up to the age of 2 or so

Good luck!
Posted by KOPCaroline
Oct 29, 2011
I do agree with MHN, the only dogs I know carrying out this sort of training are older, and they are even still working on perfecting the command response.

I would work on sit, down, heel, come, stay, give, speak...those sort of basic commands first. Only after your dog is used to you and responds to your commands really well should you look into training this sort of thing.

I'm sure we can help at the time, but I don't want you to get frustrated with a new puppy who just isnt getting it, so besides MHN's breakdown of the process above, it might be better to go over the specifics later on, when you and your puppy are ready?
Posted by 3eteiba
Oct 30, 2011
Give
Speak
Heel
what are those?
how to accomplish them?
Posted by MaxHollyNoah
Oct 31, 2011
Hi 3eteiba,

Let me explain what those commands are:

Give= give an object that the dog is holding in his mouth to the owner by releasing it (this is a very practical command when your puppy has got a hold of your sock or something and you want to take it back from him)

Speak= bark (this is more like a trick, rather than a command)

Heel= walk right by the owner at the speed of the owner and into the direction of the owner (this is an off-leash and advanced command. Usually a loose leash walking is enough)

Loose leash walking= walk without pulling the leash

Let us know again when you and your pup master some basic commands, such as "Sit", "Down", "Stay" and "Come". I will be happy to explain how to teach the above mentioned commands and tricks. Good luck
Posted by KOPCaroline
Nov 1, 2011
Sorry about that - didn't mean to be more confusing!

I think "give" is a command you can work on from day one, so that your pup doesn't start assumming he/she can take and keep what he wants.

Basic training on this involves asking for the object your pup has in its mouth, saying "give" as you take it. At first you may find that you have to wrestle something out of puppy's mouth - I had to do it with my dog a few times - but once you get it away from puppy, say "good dog" and give pats and encouragement. It may help to give the "sit" command after you've encouraged the pup - so that his attention goes to something else, instead of trying to get the toy/object back from you.

Try giving the object back and repeating. After a few tries you should be able to say "give", hold your hand out, and have puppy drop whatever it is. Be sure to encourage the correct response every time, so your dog gets the idea. And do it with any object your pup picks up.

Hope that's easy enough to understand. As MHN said, "speak" is a trick command some owners like to use - but it does take an older dog to get it, the same for heel. I think to start you should focus (again echoing MHN) on getting your pup to walk on a lead without tugging
Posted by 3eteiba
Nov 6, 2011
well is there like a brief guide from mhn or kop on sit,down,heel,these stuff.
also when my puppy arrives the 1st day for example.
when do i start training from the first day or what and which training do i start with?
Posted by MaxHollyNoah
Nov 7, 2011
Hi 3eteiba,

It is hard to explain how to train your pup some basic commands with just words so I recommend you watch some YouTube videos.

Just Google like "dog training Sit (or Down, or whatever command you want to learn)" and watch those instructions.

However, when you first get your pup, don't try to teach him too many commands right away. I would rather focus how to establish a good relationship with him. Give him a lot of attention and pick him up and touch him everywhere on his body. Let him meet a lot of people. When he's got necessary shots, let him meet a lot of dogs/puppies. This is called "Socialization" and it is extremely important, much more than teaching commands and tricks. Those can come later.

Also, you will need to potty train your puppy so those are the two things you will need to concentrate the next few weeks after you get your puppy.

Good luck
Posted by KOPCaroline
Nov 7, 2011
Hey there

I think youtube and the information in the members section of KOP can help explain basic training well - KOP provides a booklet type file on basic dog behaviour that is helpful for new owners and pups, and youtube, as MaxHollyNoah said, will have many easy videos to follow.

I totally agree with MaxHollyNoah, and think when you bring puppy home that you should focus on bonding and building trust, so that your puppy will respond well to you and listen. Potty training obviously starts from day one, as well as name recognition - those two things are first on the list. Use your pups name every time you talk to him, and call him to you a lot, just for cuddles. Puppies are just like people and learn at different rates, so you'll be a better judge of how quickly he catches on and when you can start training sit, which is usually one of the first things people teach. If puppy is really jumpy, you may want to start training on a "off" or "no" or "enough" command from the first week or so, to train good behaviour.

I know it sounds confusing, and its a lot to think about, but dogs are learning curves, and most of it is figuring it out day by day, and you and your dog bond more We're here for you though, and always happy to offer advice!
Posted by 3eteiba
Nov 8, 2011
well i totally agree with mhn about the the bond between me and my dog, sounds exciting. also, potty training from day one is good.
if i want to make a to do list and a calender for my dog
i will start with these 2 stuff then, does anyone have an excel sheet with these stuff which will be more helpful?
Posted by KOPCaroline
Nov 12, 2011
A to do list and calendar are great ideas, but remember each dog is different, and just because you plan something doesn't mean it will guaranteed happen by your planned time!

I personally dont have anything like an excel sheet for training, because I think dog training is a personal, day to day kind of thing. The best I can tell you is an approximation of what I did with my dog:

-house train from day one
-Train your dog to recognize and respond to his name from day one
-work on good leash manners (no pulling) from the first walk you go on
-the first time you go to the vet - take treats, make it a good experience so your pup doesnt learn to be nervous when going

Those, in my opinion, are the starters for dog training. The rest will come at your own pace, once you feel its time to add on. I started training my dog to "sit" from about day 3 or 4, but I know its different for every situation. Once you bring puppy home I'm sure you'll find that you'll be able to tell how much your dog is capable of, and how quickly he will pick up on things. Dogs are individuals, just like people, and planning your relationship and training ahead of time may be a bit of a waste of time. Again, this is just my opinion, but either way I'm sure you'll sort things out quickly!
Posted by MaxHollyNoah
Nov 13, 2011
Hi 3eteiba,

I agree with Caroline. Every dog/pup is different at their personality and learning speed, etc. so there is no set schedule. If you get to choose a puppy from a litter, choose confident and curious individual. There are a lot of books about how to choose a puppy so it might help you to read one of those, or ask the breeder which one would be good. Even if you don't get to choose, don't worry, as long as the puppy is healthy. They are like blank page so all you will be doing with him/her from now on will have great impacts. And as I said, the most important thing is socialization, both with people and other dogs.

The items Caroline listed up are great. If I am allowed to add one more, crate train the pup (or be firm with where to leave the pup during the night) from Day 1. I am sure he/she will be whining/crying for the first few nights, being separated from his/her litter mates. You should totally ignore the whining. If you come and check on him, it is same as teaching him to whine when he wants your attention. Giving dogs and pups clear boundaries and rules will benefit for both you and the pup in a long run.